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You and another user had an extended discussion of about 30 comments. This goes far beyond what is or should be on-topic or allowed. A lot of those were nitpicks, borderline insults, misunderstandings and meta discussion. I can't recall much of it now except someone saying "where did I say 'might'", someone calling something egregious and a ...


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Because sometimes people aren't rational. In fact, I'd argue that people are rarely rational, liberals and highly-educated people included. Most of our behavior is driven by factors other than pure, cold rationality – things like religion, tribalism, nationalism, patriotism, and the desire for the respect of our friends and neighbors, to name just a few. If ...


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What I deleted was a comment chain of 60(!) comments posted over a timeframe of just 2(!) hours. It was a back and forth which didn't really go anywhere. First it was a "you are wrong - no you are wrong" discussion and then it escalated into personal attacks (literal quotes: "Are you being deliberately obtuse", "Without it, people like you would [...]", "I ...


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I want to spell out what the core of this dispute is, because I think that will help you guys as you try to establish policy about answers like mine. So... There is an essential confusion about what constitutes a 'discussable' group, not just here but generally. There are many groups that we are perfectly comfortable discussing politically: political parties;...


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When it comes to identifying the "argument from authority" fallacy, then there is one thing one needs to pay attention to: Is the author using the authority as a source for a fact or for an opinion? For example, let's take these two statements: According to this article from DailyDogMagazine, cats are the worst pets of all. According to this article from ...


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It's not a CoC violation. It's not smart by any stretch, but a CoC violation would have been a direct attack. Something along the lines of All [members of this political party] should die in a dumpster fire What Ted posted was more of a diatribe. It's not untrue, but he's juxtaposing his cariacatures of the Right so he has a straw-man to knock down in his ...


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If someone flagged an answer like that for deletion, I would decline that flag almost 100% of the time. As long as your answer looks like it's trying to help the OP solve his underlying problem(on politics.SE, it's usually to understand an issue) then you should be fine. As for whether I would be inclined upvote or downvote that answer, however, is a ...


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One important property of a good answer is that people have reason to be confident in its correctness. We need a reason to believe that the answerer's premises and reasoning are valid, and references are a good way of validating the premises and reasoning in an answer. Most people here seem to agree that references should be required for an answer, but I ...


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I have been asking for a comments-only lock for years. There might be some hope we will eventually get one. Right now, however, I'm afraid there is no good solution. The answer produced an inordinate amount of comments that violated our commenting guidelines. There were two requests for commenters to continue the discussion in chat, but unfortunately, both ...


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Basically, flags should be used to signal moderators about severe problems that, indeed, require the moderator's intrusion — usually, by deletion the offending post. So your question turns into "is it appropriate to delete answers with unbacked (bold) statements or claims?" IMHO, the answer is — in most cases, no, since such posts do not violate the SE ...


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Voting to close and Answering are by nature contradictory actions. The very act of voting to close is saying that the question isn't worth writing an answer for. It's fine if you change your mind after making one of the actions. People change their minds sometimes. If this is the case, you have the option to undo your first action by rescinding your ...


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There are two possible solutions, but in my experience, all roads lead to Meta. Solution 1 is to raise a Meta question, like this one, asking whether the answer should be deleted or not. This can spark further partisan arguments, but there will eventually come some sort of consensus on whether the community at large wants that answer or not - in the case of ...


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I don't see that he did anything inappropriate here. To review: Deleting the chain of comments discussing the answer That's obviously the right thing to do; as he pointed out to you, this is not a discussion forum. You should have taken it to chat. Deleting your initial comment saying that the answer is wrong Perhaps somewhat more controversially; I ...


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Sometimes the approach taken towards improving something is important. Your comments would be more likely to have been received well if they looked like constructive criticism trying to improve an answer, rather than appearing to be an apologia for female genital mutilation. In addition, it's worth noting that the question is more like "Why has the US ...


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The question was "Why allow convicted criminals to vote?", and the answer described a reason why to allow criminals to vote. If you think the answer needs more to back it up, then leave a comment expressing your desire for more, and down-vote. And if the question ends up being as overwhelmingly up-voted as this one is, then you'll just have to deal with ...


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This problem is as old as Stack Exchange, I guess. In the end the question author has sole authority to decide which answer to accept. We can not override their decision, except by removing the answer altogether. What you can do is: Post a comment on the question where you express your concerns about their choice of accepted answer. Hope they reconsider. ...


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Images can be a powerful tool to make an answer more useful. A good picture can say more than a thousand words. But only if used correctly. Images which don't add useful information can be extremely distracting due to their eye-catching nature. So please don't add pictures to your questions and answers when they don't add any useful information.


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Not rude or abusive per the CoC I just flagged an answer that literally just said pretty much "The reason for X is because Left is rational and right is irrational", using a lot of randomly picked statements (can't even call them facts, because they are just that guy's personal opinions on which of his preferred ideological positions are rational)....


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No No. Answers should be accepted if, in the OP's opinion, it is the best answer to their question. Comments are not a part of an answer. They are transitory elements that might eventually be deleted if they are no longer useful. If you accept an answer based on its comments, then what will you do once those comments are no longer available? Comments are ...


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References help avoid needless disputes, and are appropriate whenever users are relaying facts, findings, and ideas which did not originate with them. References are very useful, since a user might be misquoting something, or have misunderstood what it means; or it might be an authoritative reference that leaves little in doubt, or at least less doubt than ...


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One thing I'd suggest is to re-evaluate whether it is truly necessary to include things that you know are opinion based. It won't really change anything. As Britain never really sheltert refugees, due to their geographic position and (Warning: opinion-based) xenophobic tendencies. Do we really need to know why Britain doesn't shelter many refugees in ...


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As the author of the answer that Swedish Architect (hereafter SA) takes exception to, I suppose I should offer my perspective... First, let me point out that SA has had a certain amount of input on my answer. If you look at the timeline of the answer, you'll see that SA offered an extensive edit on April 8, which I subsequently re-edited for balance, but ...


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I personally don't think we need to prepare a list of things that are banned in advance, there's no way such a list could be comprehensive and would need to always evolve in order to encompass whatever the newest transgression of the day is. Comments That said, my answer to this question is that the policy for such comments should be the same as the general ...


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In a subsequent comment to your question, you mention this other question, saying: The problem is worsening. [...] not only the question is incoherent but the answers aren't much better either To be clear, I agree the question isn't great. But however incoherent it may seem to you, and however laughably trivial it might be to those who might be both ...


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I am in two minds here - I agree with @Philipp that the comment chain should have been deleted, but at the same time I appreciate the need for the supposed erroneous claims in the answer to be pointed out. Other commentators have said that if there is a problem with the answer, the solution is to write another answer pointing out these issues, but I disagree ...


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Disclaimer: I was involved in the quoted discussion, this particular comment was addressed to me. I agree with Philipp's answer: such answers/comments should be downvoted. I would like to add that I think it's useful to expose the contradictions that such fallacies entail, in order to make it clear that it's not the opinion which is downvoted, it's the ...


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Okay, I'm not really in a place to type a lot - in a phone with limited access. Rest assured, better answer coming. It wasn't an answer (as Dj says) It did suck the air out for other questions I responded to a flag, and did not initiate. User1873, your style of polemic is beginning to grate on me, to the detriment of the site. You post so much opinion ...


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Discussing politics is already hard enough without adding juvenile attempts at humour to the mix. The image added nothing of value to your answer. If anything, it was an unnecessary distraction to an otherwise good answer. I would have also removed it.


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Yes, on Stack Exchange, we hate fun. It's been this way since the early days.


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