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| Mar 31 at 19:32 | comment | added | Radically Reasonable | @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica I am familiar with the claim in bold. In fact, I quoted it in one of my comments above and responded to it. The fact that some group objected to its use in a political context doesn't make it a general objection to its metaphorical use. When a false accusation of gratuitous or a ritualized murder is made, with the purpose of stigmatizing an identifiable group of people, it is a blood libel both metaphorically, as an allusion to the blood libel made against Jews, and as the plain English meaning of the phrase. | |
| Mar 31 at 14:59 | comment | added | Italian Philosopher | @RadicallyReasonable I was referring to the use of the term on other subjects than purely antisemitic ones. (from wiki): The term 'blood libel' has also been used in reference to any unpleasant or damaging false accusation, and as a result, it has acquired a broader metaphoric meaning. However, this wider usage of the term remains controversial, because Jewish groups object to it. Making its applicability questionable at best on Donbas. This was specifically cited as offensive by Jewish groups when Palin used it to snipe back at some controversy she's landed into. | |
| Mar 31 at 11:04 | comment | added | Radically Reasonable | @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica i am gonna put you in the "no", column then? We should probably stop it at that before YOU lecture ME more on what "the Jewish people think." | |
| Mar 31 at 6:09 | comment | added | Italian Philosopher | And try basing your accusations on a formal definition of antisemitism instead of deciding on your own what is what. Here's one, for example. Now, how does your "blood libel" post apply to this filter? | |
| Mar 31 at 6:04 | comment | added | Italian Philosopher | @RadicallyReasonable No one else uses blood libel in any reasonable fashion, nor is it much appreciated by Jewish people when it gets used to talk about other issues. Now, if someone actually did come with the actual conspiracy in question about Jews here, then I'd be 100% behind a minimum 1 year ban. In the meantime stop relabelling everything you don't like in such an over the top fashion. | |
| Mar 31 at 5:46 | comment | added | Radically Reasonable | @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica I would say that's the original, or the "proper", blood libel, the one from which the term gets its name. | |
| Mar 31 at 5:42 | comment | added | Radically Reasonable | @thegodsfromengineering I have seen that one, but probably mostly in the past week. Presumably because ISIS is active again. | |
| Mar 30 at 23:29 | comment | added | Italian Philosopher | I don't think "blood libel" is a commonly used term in general political discourse. Few people would think of using it. The antisemitic version of it is highly specific as to what it claims and has nothing to with regular warfare. Besides being a conspiracy theory. | |
| Mar 30 at 19:16 | comment | added | 264 champagne bottles on ice | @RadicallyReasonable: I thought you were going to bring up ISIS being a tool of the US/Mossad/Ukraine. That's far more en-vogue lately jpost.com/israel-news/article-793361 | |
| Mar 30 at 19:09 | comment | added | Radically Reasonable | Also, "blood libel" is not exclusive to falsely stigmatizing Jews. "8 years of bombing Donbas" is pretty clearly a blood libel. | |
| Mar 30 at 18:51 | comment | added | Radically Reasonable | The "antisemitism" tag attributes a certain intent which people may believe not to be their motivation. And they may be right in that belief and yet still be spreading messages designed to stigmatize more than to inform. | |
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