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I think Brythan put it best in theirBrythan's (non-)answer put it best:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and (if absolutely necessary) deletion.

As for the answer, it’s a useful (as determined by the community) answer with a solid core message which is obscured by an abrasive (or offensive) tone. The preferred answer to that is editing to fix the tone while preserving the value.

I think Brythan put it best in their (non-)answer:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and (if absolutely necessary) deletion.

As for the answer, it’s a useful (as determined by the community) answer with a solid core message which is obscured by an abrasive (or offensive) tone. The preferred answer to that is editing to fix the tone while preserving the value.

I think Brythan's (non-)answer put it best:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and (if absolutely necessary) deletion.

As for the answer, it’s a useful (as determined by the community) answer with a solid core message which is obscured by an abrasive (or offensive) tone. The preferred answer to that is editing to fix the tone while preserving the value.

Added recommendation for what to do with the answer aside from action on the question
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divibisan
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I think Brythan put it best in their (non-)answer:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and/or (if absolutely necessary) deletion.

As for the answer, it’s a useful (as determined by the community) answer with a solid core message which is obscured by an abrasive (or offensive) tone. The preferred answer to that is editing to fix the tone while preserving the value.

I think Brythan put it best in their (non-)answer:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and/or deletion.

I think Brythan put it best in their (non-)answer:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and (if absolutely necessary) deletion.

As for the answer, it’s a useful (as determined by the community) answer with a solid core message which is obscured by an abrasive (or offensive) tone. The preferred answer to that is editing to fix the tone while preserving the value.

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divibisan
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I think Brythan put it best in their (non-)answer:

Really though, if you want the answer to this, we're the wrong place to ask.

The real problem is the question, which, by asking for the internal motivations of a broad group of people, almost guarantees that any answer will be uselessly incomplete and/or offensive to a broad group. It should be closed and possibly deleted, since it is unanswerable on this site.


The core of the question is:

So why are his supporters adopting that as a "lead" chant at rallies, and not chanting something else[?]

The answer in question is a legitimate effort to answer that question, and it has received so many upvotes (compared to many anti-Trump posts which I've seen downvoted, closed, and deleted) because it touches on a thing that is real, namely tribalism, the culture war, and the hate that some Trump supporters and opponents feel for the other side. The problem is that it paints much too wide a brush and attributes the beliefs of a group to the whole.

I don't think that even @jpmc26 would deny that some people chant these things to "own the libs", and, if you pressed them, I doubt that @pjc50 would argue that all Trump supporters think this way. But the way the question is written demands over-generalizations, and so that's what we get from the answers.

If we want to avoid issues like this, we need to deal with questions that require answerers to make sweeping claims about broad groups of people, either through editing (impossible here, since there are already many questions that would be invalidated) or through closure and/or deletion.